Hear what shocked ex-FBI agent about Idaho suspect’s behavior after killings

Hear what shocked ex-FBI agent about Idaho suspect’s behavior after killings

Former FBI agent Tracy Walder argues that the suspect arrested in connection to the killings in Idaho didn’t learn enough about criminal investigations while studying criminal justice. #CNN #News

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55 Responses

  1. Jenny Lou says:

    This case absolutely haunts me, therefore I cannot begin fathom how these families are feeling to endure this nightmare while losing their beloved loved ones. 💔

    • Martin Martin says:

      @Joan Frellburg Pretty weak from somebody living in the American Era.

    • Steve Armstrong says:

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    • Steve Armstrong says:

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    • Joan Frellburg says:

      @Martin Martin Ok, I’ll stop. I’ll be nice for the rest of the day, and stop revealing why America is in the trouble it’s in by exposing they type of intellect that keeps popping up in the comment sections.

    • Joan Frellburg says:

      @Martin Martin You are definitely triggered and we all can see it.

  2. Rico Avila says:

    She hit the nail in the head. His arrogance is what got him caught. It’s is amazing how fast this got solved! Well done!

    • Lynlee Bossard says:

      @Catherine Sanchez Yes!! They let us all believe they had zero leads & then BAM. Turns out they’d been building their case almost all along. Not even the families had a clue, which is sad, but that’s how it has to be done in these cases. The PCA had more in it than I expected, & they only have to put enough in there to seal an arrest. I agree, it doesn’t seem like politics or egos got in the way, at least from what it appears. I can’t wait to see how it all plays out & the families get justice for their children.

    • Catherine Sanchez says:

      One thing no one is mentioning is how well the various law enforcement agencies worked together . This could have taken years to solve if not for them working together. This unfortunately isn’t always typical . There’s a alot of ego in law enforcement and everyone wants all the credit for solving crimes (that’s how you get promoted ) . Hundreds of similar crimes have gone unsolved due to mistakes that this group did not make. The biggest thing local PD did was ASK FOR HELP. They realized they were over their head and got assistance so this wouldn’t turn into Jonbonet Ramsey situation. They and the FBI were able to work with agencies across multiple states including the one the alledged killer was from . This is a big deal .

    • YAH says:

      If he was so familiar with the home he would know who all lived there so why didn’t he check to see if the surviving girl was home? I’m glad he didn’t and she was ok but I’m curious to why he didn’t make sure all the people living there were accounted for.

    • Lynlee Bossard says:

      @cat’s pajamas True, true.

    • cat's pajamas says:

      @Lynlee Bossard It’s all languages. More than other language speakers, English speakers will borrow words they need from other languages, yet still there aren’t adequate words to describe people like Bryan. English speakers have actually studied these people the most. Like an expert in narcissism and psychopathy said, “When it comes to narcissism and psychopathy, words fail.”

  3. Mimi 78 says:

    In 2006 my mom went missing. The day she was reported missing is a complete blur for me. The day the cops found her body is another day that is just gone from my memory. The week in between feels like a hazy daydream.

    Until you’ve been in that state of shock YOU DONT KNOW.

    • Cody Hopkins says:

      @LD you people are like the killer; jumping on a bandwagon of attacking people you don’t even know for no other reason other than to sate your own sadistic desires.

    • Barbara Stuart says:

      She may have been very hung over and not comprehending what was going on til she slept some of the alcohol off.

    • Cherrie Fetterly says:

      @Speculaytor and even if she didn’t fear for roommates, you would think she would be scared to go to sleep in fear of her own safty.

    • Best Friend says:

      Whaoo very sorry I hope u feel better 🙏

    • LD says:

      @Cody Hopkins Those reports, including the affidavit, is not everything and a lot has been excluded. The police and the D.A are not obligated to put out everything they have to the media or the public…so instead of gleaming what you want from it…wait for the trial.

  4. mike crooks says:

    In my younger years I had roommates and tho it was not a party house, you learn to tune things out. I also crashed at a party house in those days and places like that are chaotic when there are comings and goings at all hours. People are drunk some are quiet, some are louder, some cry at night, and all you want is to get some sleep. Until you are completely immersed in and understand the daily situation and environment that person was in, people should not be near so quick to criticize what some one else would do.

    • Paige says:

      She also could have not had a great relationship with her roommates. Heaven knows I had plenty of roommates that I didn’t get along with and would avoid. If you aren’t close with a roommate and maybe even have a tense relationship with them, you aren’t going to go and immediately check on them when they are crying because let’s be honest. That’s be uncomfortable. I don’t think we have room to judge these roommates as we don’t know all the details.

    • Mr Smartypants says:

      @Giovani Rafael I will not be quiet. This is exactly the right time. I’m being the opposite of sexist. I have been in life and death situations so I do know how I’ve acted. I have also saved 1 probably 2 people as a cold water swift water rescuer. Real life IS where one brings up gender because that’s actually where all the action happens. The woman who failed her friends – Dylan – will not read this. I’d bite my tongue if I was ever in the same room as her. After all nothing can now change the past. But for other females reading this – we expect better from you. Don’t be a Dylan. Courage, grace under pressure can be learned. Parents can teach females responsibility just like bad parents can teach their daughters they are little tender irresponsibly princesses. Unless it’s to Princess’s advantage to claim she’s equal when it benefits her. 😏

    • Mr Smartypants says:

      @Jade Cove Healing Her actions are absurd. Women need to grow up. Not revert to little girls when it’s convenient and then state you’re equal to men when it’s convenient. You have no idea if all her other friends would have made it or not. She opened her door 3 times. If she had taken proper action the first time she very well may have saved someone. End of story. It’s time we hold females to the same standard as men.

    • aewtx says:

      @Jade Cove Healing No, justify her actions. I could have understood the fear and freezing aspect, but then SHE WENT TO SLEEP. And then failed to call the cops AT ALL. And when they were called it was 8 HOURS LATER. This isn’t shutting down momentarily.

      And my sister had someone break into her place while she was sleeping at night. What did she do? She screamed. LOUDLY. A neighbor said she never heard such a loud scream. I had someone break into my place while I was napping in the afternoon. It woke me up and I was immediately alert, as my sister had been too when it happened to her. I didn’t scream. I understand people will act differently, especially in traumatic situations, but this isn’t even a case of different temperaments causing you to act differently, this was just plain disregard. At the time she went to sleep, she didn’t know anyone had been killed yet, because she NEVER CHECKED ON ANYONE. The extent of what she knew was someone scary in a mask was in their home and she watched him leave. That is not traumatic enough to have a total breakdown to the point of not even living in reality anymore, like you’re suggesting.

    • Giovani Rafael says:

      @Mr Smartypants Stfu mister sexist this is not the right time to bring up gender differences here! You don’t know what it’s like to be in a situation of real fear, only those who have been very shocked by something know how it is. Each person has a different reaction to an extreme situation. Some people freeze, others can’t even talk about what happened for days so don’t judge what you don’t know.

  5. Jennifer Bellinger says:

    Poor DM I can’t even imagine the horror!! As a mother, my hearts breaks for the parents, family, and friends…it will be interesting to learn what the motive was..he could get the death penalty..I also feel sorry for his family..when these stories hit the news..I always think these are people who were living their lives and then this happens and across our nation we are listening to it ..their lives are forever changed😥💔

  6. Trudi Choate says:

    Oh my gosh I feel so bad for what these teens went through

    • WeaverDreams says:

      @Lynlee Bossard BS. If you’re really scared you call 911; you don’t lock your door and hide under your covers and go back to sleep.

    • WeaverDreams says:

      They weren’t teens. 21-23.

    • Sayres Rudy says:

      “teenager” doesn’t mean anything. brain studies show “adolescence” extends into the mid-20’s. so everyone can stop scoring gotcha points about “teens.”

    • Grim Dolo says:

      @sharpedge Really? “”Life is a party” lifestyle didn’t work this time. They even didn’t lock the house. Open 24/7, so what do you expect?” “a lot of people make themselves into victims”. Pray tell how this isn’t blaming the victims.

    • sharpedge says:

      @Shhhhh🤫 Actually, I think that when he said that he meant whether there were other suspects or whether they zeroed on him alone. I think he did this alone.

  7. M Palmer says:

    Anyone wondering how these cops are doing after encountering such a heinous crime they have to see and can’t unsee? Tragic indeed

  8. Kimber Knutson says:

    The critical point is simply that this is an individual who “thinks that he is smarter than everyone else.” The deep emotional damage that would cause someone to desire to do something like this and actually do it is honestly unknowable. My therapist says that if you put 100 individuals in the same childhood circumstance, you will get 100 different responses/reactions. His graduate work probably provided him with what he considered to be sufficient information to carry out this heinous crime and get away with it. Sometimes people do things like this and want to get caught. I do not think that is the case here. That he made the mistakes that he made and failed to take certain things into consideration reflects the extent to which he believed that he would not be affected emotionally by committing these crimes. He probably thought he could actually stab 4 human beings in cold blood and remain dispassionate, which is disgusting, horrifying and tragic. There is obviously a deeply damaged individual inside that killer, but I for one could care less about that, given that he took the lives of four innocent human beings for completely psychotic and sociopathic reasons. If he had pulled this off and not made the mistakes that he made, would he have felt powerful? Whatever. He would have done it again. My heart and prayers go out to the families of the victims.

    • Matt C says:

      @John Rathbun John also I want to apologize for saying what you went through was average. I don’t know you like you said. Very ignorant of me to even say that.. I only realized after reading it.. I only said that to honestly make you feel better. Like you are not alone. There are many of us with similar experience. That does not make your experience less important or average.. I was being stupid and stubborn..

    • Matt C says:

      @John Rathbun well John I’m glad you stayed sane and sober. I hope you never look back and only what is ahead and keep the same mentality. I struggled with depression all my life and use to smoke weed everyday to forget. I realized weed is only a bandage and when it comes off. The pain is there all over again. People say drugs help you cope but it also doesn’t help you move on. I truly hope the best for you. Hey John I’m not wealthy but I found that investing in stocks and building a compound interest really change my life. I want to recommend a super beneficial book for you. It’s called atomic habits by James clear. It teaches you to build good habits and how to get extremely good at one thing.

    • John Rathbun says:

      @Matt C I locked those events into a room in my mind and I only open that door to shove more bad experiences in. For now I don’t drink anymore, thank God. But I feel the urge every day. I just learned to be sinicle and try to laugh things off and don’t let them stick to me.

    • John Rathbun says:

      @Matt C plus don’t forget about the Native in me. Our kind is still getting the short end of the stick. And our government talks about equality but yet that’s a narrative. Until our people are fully recognized as the ones that God placed us to be here. We should have a bigger say I’m the government. I believe our government should be 5 parts, 3 for the natives and 2 for the rest like Democrats and Republican. Can’t have even numbers because of impasse. I haven’t even told you the better parts of my abuse. I don’t venture into that room in my mind. It will push me back to the bottle again so I lock that room in my mind and I never venture into there. Think is how I keep sane and sober.

    • Matt C says:

      @John Rathbun xD I agree that’s why you would never tell them they are clones ! Well anyways I’m guessing your an adult and I’m sorry you went through those experience but hope you can look past and move on.

  9. Lisa Sonny says:

    I have been in a similar situation as that young lady and I was in such a state of shock it took me 4 or 5 attempts to call 911. At first I was frozen in fright then my hands shock so violently I couldn’t get the emergency number right. I feel bad for her because I know the guilt she feels.

    • Noemi Rodriguez says:

      I be heard my neighbor screaming a couple of times, I don’t know her, I called the police!! ALWAYS!!

      So fishy she did nothing

    • Nicky s says:

      @goblin queen of nilbog uh no I am a female and literally had an incident on Sept 28th 2022 and adrenaline and rage were all I felt but I have been in actual shock before and still find her story impossible to believe.

      here are my issues, she never called the cops she called friends tho… THE OTHER ROOMMATE CALLED THE COPS,
      also, why did he leave her if he ‘walked towards her then ‘walked past her ‘ l

      there are a bunch of issues and it would be more believable that she was tripping balls on drugs and wasn’t thinking it was real. I have been in shock and yes everyone experiences stress differently but he scoped this house why leave a witness? these are all issues with she was in shock hell she even opened the door 3 times she could move then and shock can build but here is why I think drugs.

      She could have been on shrooms or acid and thought it was all a bad trip, was still too scared about it, and called friends over to open her room and let her know the world outside isn’t some spiraling void or color wheel. friends come over thinking it was just a bad trip and focus on her and then the roommate finds “someone unconscious” as that is what the first 911 call was about. friends probably didn’t think anything more about looking around and just went to their friend (it happens a lot with bad trips ppl call a friend to come over to help ground them in reality again. Also, it is really hard to use a smartphone when you are tripping balls. Shroom high can last HOURS sometimes 6 or more though after effect (no longer hallucinating or at the peak of the high) can still linger and affect sleep for up to 18 hours after ingesting though some are only 10 hours total for a higher dose.

      But I still wonder why he left a witness? Some think leaving her is the probable redirection and hoped cops would just focus on her and not find him out but that seems really sus and unbelievable.

    • Nicky s says:

      @John Rambo she never even called them it was the other roommate that did but she messaged and called friends at this point I am with the other guy saying probably drugs.

      She could have been on shrooms or acid and thought it was all a bad trip, was still too scared about it, and called friends over to open her room and let her know the world outside isn’t some spiraling void or color wheel (it happens a lot with bad trips ppl call a friend to come over to help ground them in reality again and work through and it is really hard to use a smartphone when you are tripping balls. Shroom high can last HOURS sometimes 6 or more though after affect (no longer hallucinating or at the peak of the high) can still linger and affect sleep for up to 18 hours after ingesting though some are only 10 hours total for a higher dose.

      but i still wonder why he left a witness? some think to leave her as the probable redirection and hoped cops would just focus on her and not find him out but that seems really sus and unbelievable.

    • Nicky s says:

      @Blown Gasket this is what I am thinking maybe shrooms or something even as ppl do these a lot now to aid in mental health but she may have wondered if she was even having a bad trip and at this point, it would be better to admit that vs letting the world think you’re an accomplice.

      because if he walked towards her and then past her, why leave a witness? Drugs could have amplified the experience to her where he seemed to look at her and walk towards her of course along with general stress

    • Nicky s says:

      @therealz 360z but she never called the cops she called friends tho… THE OTHER ROOMMATE CALLED THE COPS,
      also, why did he leave her if he ‘walked towards her’ then ‘walked past her ‘ l

      there are a bunch of issues and it would be more believable that she was tripping balls on drugs and wasn’t thinking it was real. I have been in shock and yes everyone experiences stress differently but he scoped this house why leave a witness

  10. Desktop Kitty says:

    I was raped in my own home when I was a kid. After it was over, I locked myself in the bathroom, terrified. I was even too scared to leave to get food, after having gone 24 hours with nothing to eat. I didn’t leave the bathroom to call 911 until the next day. Even after dialing 911, I locked myself back into the bathroom. You can’t know how you’d react in a situation like that, until it happens to you. There’s a good chance this girl was so terrified she found a place to hide and stayed there, too scared to move from that spot for hours.

    • WeaverDreams says:

      No. The roommate had no clue anything bad happened – that’s why she didn’t bother to call 911 and went back to sleep and didn’t even think about checking it out until the next day. I am very sorry that happened to you though. I had someone break into my apartment and attempted rape and I thought them off and chased him down the highway at 100 miles an hour twice after that. I found out my next-door neighbor knew someone was in there and said she “didn’t want to get involved because she’s from New York and we don’t get involved.” It’s pretty pathetic isn’t it?

    • George Wagner says:

      20 is still young

    • SasseT-UK says:

      @MJ Remy she might have not known he killed her roommates

    • Cat Woman says:

      I’m so sorry that you went through such a heinous experience.

    • Jean J. says:

      So, as a kid you were sexually assaulted at home — a horrible experience especially for a child — but also spent over a day locked up in the bathroom, horribly traumatized and unable to come out and get help. And in all that time, NO ONE checked on you or came to your help?… Were you assaulted by someone at home, someone you knew?
      Whatever the circumstances, it does not make your experience less horrible or your reaction wrong and I’m very sorry you had to go through it. But I don’t think your situation, including your age at that time and the fact that you were the *victim* makes it comparable to the *witness* in this Idaho case who probably should have called the police right away. She just made the wrong decision.

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