Minecraft 1.17 Snapshot 21w07a Grimstone & New Ore Generation

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@OddOCB draws stuff no you can’t, even without silk touch it drops the whole block its only for decoration

Make it so that grimstone drops regular gold ore blocks

YES! I can’t imagine playing without the dark UI from vanilla tweaks.

YAYYYYY

idk what happen but eyyyy

Yes

Did you see the WadZee Video

They mention the deep dark and how dangerous it would be. I get the feeling that grimstone is the deep dark

*incentive
*scenic
There you go

*scenic

It’s actually spelled “sonic”.

shit that means mobs gon spawn alot in caves

@Snailtan You guys are missing something though. It’s a whole new generation system. Old chunks won’t go down that far no matter what, and if it did it would look super weird as you would get “chunk borders” except on the Y-axis around zero. It would look super weird. A sub-issue is that at the border of a new chunk and old chunk, you would see the void as the Y level of old and new bedrock wouldn’t match. The only way to stop players going underneath old chunks would be a bedrock wall, or a new non-mineable resource as a wall which would be deep within the walls of caves ideally so you don’t ever see exposed walls in your cave.

Regenerating the bottom of old chunks is harder than it sounds. This is probably why you can’t yet use old saves in the snapshots. They are coming up with a solution to this predicament that allows an upgrade path for old saves.

​@Snailtan Also, what about servers? Especially old servers which can be in the terabytes? What about worlds with 10GB world on an old laptop with a slow HDD? A lot of people run minecraft on old machines. What if your computer shuts off during this process and corrupts chunks? What about the fact that the old generation of caves can not align with the new generation mathematically? There’s more questions there than answers.

Edit: You see how long it can take to generate a new world and spawn you in. Now imagine re-generating that spawn area + all explored chunks. It could take 5 minutes or it could take days, and if something happens to MC during this process whatever chunks it was touching would be corrupted and regenerated, potentially wiping your base with it. Sure, you can create a backup first or better yet the game could do it automatically. But what if you were 95% complete? What if you had to do it over again? And by the time you’ve explored so much, you might as well just make a new world because you’re gonna have to adventure far out to see the new caves every time you need resources. If I was in the process of crafting or building something I would rather go to the good old previously generated caves and ravines around my area. I typically explorer in a circle, outwards from my base. In some of my worlds, I’d have to go up to 25k blocks out in some axis to see the new caves.

@Jonny Sure it depends. I mean, saves are just data. I am not sure, but my educated guess is that the chunk files, save every block that would naturally be there. So when you load a chunk, it doesnt read everything from the save, it just generates a new chunk and then removes and places block that have changed and are saved in the chunk save file.

You could technically write a function that translates old data to new data, if necessary. in my opinion not worth it, but this is just a theroretical what if scenatio.

And servers are a whole other beast. If you had to translate thousands in chunk data, you would have to wait a very long time, especially on old hardware. It is possible, that I can guarantee, but nobody in their right mind would code something like this lol

Though it would be kinda neat as an experiment, not something I would want to code tho lol.