Raya vs. Encanto – How One Message Failed and Another Succeeded

Raya vs. Encanto – How One Message Failed and Another Succeeded

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44 Responses

  1. baby killing cadillac says:

    “Explains her actions without justifying them” explains alma so well and drives the theme of generational trauma. It’s not talked about enough how trauma is cyclical in nature. Abusers have often been abused themselves. That’s why it’s up to the abused to break the cycle, just like mirabel did. It doesn’t excuse the abuse an abuser gives from what they’ve endured, it just explains their actions and unsolved underlying issues. I’m glad a movie like encanto exists—to show an abuser realize they’re wrong and make an attempt to atone for their actions and help who they’ve hurt as a way to heal from their own trauma

    • sono io says:

      @Gamey Gaming the movie ended too early tho, so we can not see the path to get forgiveness from her family if not at all, in both cases that is as a bad implication as Raya

    • sono io says:

      Yet, saying she is sorry fixes nothing so that is the same as making the victim do the first step

    • deejaydee says:

      Did you watch lily orchards video?

    • Dhikocts Alzhanch says:

      Only for fans over 18 years old snapgirls.date/beatrice

      #cutegirls

      Megan: “Hotter”
      Hopi: “Sweeter”
      Joonie: “cooler”
      Yoongi: “Butter”

      Asi con toy y sus mañas no se la lease que escriba bien mamon hay nomas pa ra reirse un rato y no estar triste y estresado.por la vida dura que se vive hoy .
      Köz karaş: ”Taŋ kaldım”
      Erinder: ”Sezimdüü”
      Jılmayuu: ”Tattuuraak”
      Dene: ”Muzdak”
      Jizn, kak krasivaya melodiya, tolko pesni pereputalis.
      Aç köz arstan
      Bul ukmuştuuday ısık kün bolçu, jana arstan abdan açka bolgon.
      Uyunan çıgıp, tigi jer-jerdi izdedi. Al kiçinekey koyondu gana taba algan. Al bir az oylonboy koyondu karmadı. ”Bul koyon menin kursagımdı toyguza albayt” dep oylodu arstan.
      Arstan koyondu öltüröyün dep jatkanda, bir kiyik tigi tarapka çurkadı. Arstan aç köz bolup kaldı. Kiçine koyondu emes, çoŋ kiyikti jegen jakşı dep oylodu.#垃圾

    • Miss Ryuza says:

      Summarizes the theme so well. I’m happy finally someone is pointing out that Alma did things with good intentions, but realizes that what she did to achieve it caused damages, explains the why and that she was wrong for how she treated her family, then made up with Mirabel. This hit so close to home for me because around this time the movie came out, I’m working things out with my mom after expressing everything she did that hurt me over the years.

  2. Vernowietsch says:

    Mirabel’s “I will never be good enough for you” after the brief moment of silence during their argument caught me totally off guard and hit like a truck. Whenever I rewatch the movie, it just gets me everytime.

    • Kass says:

      Same. I had an exact moment like that with my grand dad some months ago.
      But my family isnt like Mirabel’s, it hurt so much because I will never get any positive resolution over these kind of conflicts.
      At least this movie gave me hope.

    • Kieran Stark says:

      Mirabel to Abuela Alma Madrigal (before the third and last act continued): I will never be good enough for you. *nobody turns on Mirabel by making her a victim of bullying like it’s Hotel Transylvania 4 towards Dracula*

      Raya to Namaari (as the third act also continued from there): You will always be good enough for us. *Namaari is treated like a reformed jerk rather than a complete one despite all of her toxic behaviour*

      *Is this even a competition which 2021 Disney Animation movie is the better of the two?! Of course not! Encanto is fulfilled potential, Raya and the Last Dragon was WASTED potential!*

    • Abnia Misliah Zahrah says:

      Me too.. that hits me so hard everytime I rewatch the movie

    • sitiy4 says:

      Only for fans over 18 years old beautyzone.cam/Sity

      tricks I do not know
      Megan: “Hotter”
      Hopi: “Sweeter”
      Joonie: “Cooler”
      Yoongi: “Butter

      So with toy and his tricks, do not read it to him that he writes well mamon there are only to laugh for a while and not be sad and stressed because of the hard life that is lived today.
      Köz karaş: ” Taŋ kaldım ”
      Erinder: ” Sezimdüü ”
      Jılmayuu: ” Tattuuraak ”
      Dene: ” Muzdak ”
      Jizn, kak krasivaya melodiya, tolko pesni pereputalis.
      Bul ukmuştuuday ısık kün bolçu, jana arstan abdan açka bolgon.

      Uyunan çıgıp, tigi jer-jerdi izdedi. Al kiçinekey koyondu wins taba algan. Al bir az oylonboy koyondu karmadı. ” Bul koyon menin kursagımdı toyguza albayt ” dep oylodu arstan.
      Arstan koyondu öltüröyün dep jatkanda, bir kiyik tigi tarapka çurkadı. Arstan aç köz bolup kaldı. Kiçine koyondu emes, çoŋ kiyikti jegen jakşı dep oylodu. # 垃圾

      They are one of the best concerts, you can not go but just seeing them from the screen, I know it was surprising

      💗❤️💌💘

  3. Briana Does Art says:

    Someone pointed this out before, but I’m gonna say it again here— the house falling apart scene probably also helped to open Alma’s eyes to how much she was hurting the whole family. Not just because the house broke, but because everyone was trying to save the Candle instead of themselves. Not just Mirabel, no no! EVERYONE. Isabela and Camilo both nearly get themselves killed along with Mirabel trying to save the Candle instead of trying to get out when the house is clearly falling down. If it had just been Mirabel, maybe then Alma could have thought “”Oh its just her who feels like this.”” But it isn’t! Camilo is also trying to save the Candle and Isabela- her Golden Child is also putting the safety of the Miracle/Candle over her own life! Because that’s the message she instilled in the grandkids their whole lives. They could have been crushed and killed so easily. Especially as their gifts faded. But they didn’t care. The Miracle is more important than they are! They ALL truly believe this! Not just Mirabel. ALL OF THEM. And having to see that right in front of her face… That had to really be eye opening.

    • •Gem Cake• says:

      Oh my gosh how did I not think of this-

    • Hyperspace says:

      Interesting take. I love this so much

    • ᴍᴇɪ ᴍᴇɪ💌 says:

      I have a special offer, only for fans over 18
      years old 💋👇💙
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      Gaze: “Amazing”
      Lops: “Sensual”
      Smile: “sweeter”
      Body: “cold”

      So with toy and his tricks, do not read it to him that he writes well mamon there are only to laugh for a while and not be sad and stressed because of the hard life that is lived today.
      Köz karaş: ” Taŋ kaldım ”
      Erinder: ” Sezimdüü ”
      Jılmayuu: ” Tattuuraak ”
      Dene: ” Muzdak ”
      Jizn, kak krasivaya melodiya, tolko pesni pereputalis.
      Aç köz arstan
      Bul ukmuştuuday ısık kün bolçu, jana arstan abdan açka bolgon.

      Uyunan çıgıp, tigi jer-jerdi izdedi. Al kiçinekey koyondu wins taba algan. Al bir az oylonboy koyondu karmadı. ” Bul koyon menin kursagımdı toyguza albayt ” dep oylodu arstan.
      Arstan koyondu öltüröyün dep jatkanda, bir kiyik tigi tarapka çurkadı. Arstan aç köz bolup kaldı. Kiçine koyondu emes, çoŋ kiyikti jegen jakşı dep oylodu. #垃圾

      They are one of the best concerts, you can not go but just seeing them from the screen, I know it was surprising

      💋💌🔞💘

  4. Kelsea Rae says:

    I find it hilarious how Encanto has this huge cast of about 14 characters in all. They all are way more memorable, likable and way more interesting than any of Raya’s characters.Despite Raya having a cast of characters half the size of Encanto’s I can’t even remember any of their names other than Raya herself. Even the background characters in Encanto like the “fish lady” for example, is way more memorable than any of Rayas characters will ever be.

    • Kelsea Rae says:

      @Michael Strong yeah because they were very forgettable characters honestly. It’s a shame because raya could have been a amazing movie.

    • John Angelo Siping says:

      @Dylan a Chill Kid. Ayo chill dylan. Ain’t you the chill kid?

    • Kelsea Rae says:

      @Pokaay yeah I think that’s why a lot of people want a sequel or a TV show because the characters are just too good to only see once. I mean I think All of us would love an Encanto spin off series with each episode expanding on each character and the world they live in.

  5. James Chamblee says:

    I like mirabel’s dad. He saw her with Bruno’s vision and he immediately took her side. He also defended her to his mother in law. He is ride or die for his daughter and I feel like not enough people talk about him

    • Shin says:

      @Skyhigh91100 – I think the reason why she could keep Mirabel’s secret zipped is because Mariano is proposing to Isabela and maybe she wants the engagement off despite what Bruno said about her vision. Desperation if you will.

    • 🌟 Don't Lose Your Spanish says:

      29:38 Haha. Dos oruguitas.

    • Zachary Padron says:

      @Laura Mercedes I also saw somewhere where some said that they think Agustin got stung by bees throughout the movie because he wore Isabela’s flower in his vest pocket, yet he kept it in there because it was his daughter’s and honestly I love that idea lol

    • Anarky Ink says:

      Remember… you have nothing to prove… T_T Unconditional love and support? Yes please.

    • MoonBunny24 says:

      That man would 100% help her hide a body. I love him.

  6. carlotta4th says:

    Avatar definitely does trust as a theme better–even when Zuko DOES change and try to help them they flat out tell him “we can’t trust you after everything you’ve done.” And they’re right, they couldn’t. It’s only after Zuko PROVES himself that they extend an olive branch, and even then there’s still plenty of awkwardness and not everyone accept Zuko even then (Katara has an entire episode about it). It takes them time, and even separate trips with many of the members before they seem to finally accept him fully and treat him the same as everyone else.

    • Kieran Stark says:

      Anyone: Nickelodeon, play Avatar: The Last Airbender and Encanto!

      Nickelodeon: DURR! ERKAY! *plays M. Night Shaymalan’s The Last Airbender and Raya and the Last Dragon to spite their haters and gets boycotted by more and more people*

    • YokaiBuster675 says:

      You know, Raya and Namari could have done way better if they did it like Catra and Adora. We have Adora and Catra’s perspective of their thoughts and growth. Hell, we can feel for Catra when she the villain and has done a lot of bad things (Which I mean I wish the show focused more on that but whatever) Catra grows into a pretty bad person and realizes it. Then she goes to repay for everything by *Spoilers* Letting Glimmer escape and getting herself captured. After that we see more of her redemption. She grows into a better person.

      For Raya.. Like Raya has every reason not to trust anyone after that whole Traumatic event and the whole world is dead. Namari is not that great. I legit felt like Raya didn’t need to forgive her for what she’s done. The problem is that we don’t really see much of Namari. Even if we do it’s so slim that it barely does anything. Like I don’t think Namari has done enough to make Raya forgive her.

    • RandomDragon.EXE says:

      Except for Toph, she’s still waiting on her life changing field trip with Zuko XD

  7. 364-Unbirthdays says:

    Quick correction: Alma never shut Bruno out. That was the villagers! Bruno left of his own accord because he realized how bad it would look for Mirabel if he made his prophecy public (likely because of the villagers’ views towards him, but also because of Alma’s pressure). It’s even hinted that one of the reasons why Alma talks down to Mirabel is because she never got over Bruno leaving— when she is confronting Mirabel after “What Else Can I Do?”, she says “Bruno left because of YOU.” This not only confirms that Bruno wasn’t kicked out, but also reveals one of the likely roots of Alma’s ostracization.

  8. Sabrexi says:

    A small thing, but I love when you first see the grandfather’s death, it’s sad but not very emotional. But when you get Abuela’s telling, it’s so intense and heartbreaking. She’s screaming and bawling her eyes out. It’s kind of like how everyone knew what happened, but they didn’t realize just how heartbreaking and tragic it really was

    • Kieran Stark says:

      The expression of her grief…

      STOP IT, DISNEY! IT’S TOO REAL! YOU KNOW HOW TO MAKE GROWN ADULTS CRY WHEN WATCHING THIS MASTERPIECE THAT ONLY HATERS/RAYA AND THE LAST DRAGON DEFENDERS THAT WISH THEY COULD DISLIKE THIS VIDEO HATE!

    • Minx 4321 says:

      Another part that really hit me was when she was sitting alone in her new house with her 3 babies, like she’s safe now but she still has to raise 3 kids on her own

    • Luisa Alecrim says:

      @PhreakOutBigTime you really said it all

    • Jillian says:

      @PhreakOutBigTime YES THANK YOU!!! nobody ever talks about that but it’s also a huge detail. she’s sugarcoating it to seem positive at the beginning, but at the end she just tells it how it is, in all its heart-wrenching traumatizing glory

    • PhreakOutBigTime says:

      its so interesting because both versions are abuela alma’s telling, but the first one is to her 5 year old granddaughter, an age appropriate version that focuses on magic and miracles, and when she talks to the community she only says ‘in our darkest moment, this candle blessed us with a miracle’. the focus is only on the good that came of what happened, while only mentioning the bare minimum of the bad because shes has to inspire the community and to them, what alma lost is not what they want to hear.

      and when we finally see the true version of what happened at the end, we see she has barely minutes to comprehend the horror of what has just happened to her before the other villagers approach her for help and leadership. abuela alma never had an opportunity to be sad, to fully process what happened to her in her own time, because from the very beginning, minutes after her loss, she’s had to frame what happened as a gift, a miracle that saved them all. the version she told 5 year old maribel in the beginning is probably the only version she’s ever told *anyone* in all these years. she’s been playing down and denying her trauma ever since it happened, and because of that could never truly process and heal from it until she’s confronted with losing her home again, but no longer expected by the village to be in control of fixing everything.

  9. Berry Tofu says:

    and the fact that Alma is not wearing her black shawl anymore after the *”Dos Oruguitas”* scene and after she and Mirabel willingly took accountability and apologized to each other is literally my favorite detail of the movie because finally she’s free of the trauma and the pressure she puts herself under and that she finally acknowledged that no gift is greater than the gift of having a loving and supportive family that will help you, accept you, and help you change and be the best version of yourself. –fuck why did I cry writing this–

    • Jillian says:

      ive watched analysis upon analysis video, watched the movie countless times, talked about it with others so much, and i STILL didn’t notice that!

      literally you can notice new details even months after first watching with subsequent rewatches, and that fact alone is incredible.

  10. songbird 64 says:

    Raya’s theme of trust is honestly hilarious considering the fact that most of the movie spends its time trying to hammer in the fact that some people can’t be trusted

    • Ann Apologue says:

      @Trevor Pacelli though it’s implied Namaari has chases Raya through the timeskip since they (flirty) banter with each other so Raya not trusting her is understandable. Forgive is not the same as trust

    • Mi Nheo says:

      @Trevor Pacelli I mean this video already explains it, but I can say from my pov. Raya barely learned anything that’s convincing enough for her to trust them completely. The baby and monkeys? Their actions are completely erased once Raya found out her parents were turned to stone. Yea, that is sad, but that did not redeem their actions, nor did they do anything further to convince Raya of her trust. They still stole, and beat Raya to the ground, which should have further confirm Raya’s belief of not trusting anyone. Same with the big army dude. He still does more to protect the group later on in the movie, but there’s no other reason for Raya and him to become best buddies. The shrimp boy is also the same thing, sad backstory, and although he didn’t anything bad like the other two, he is still technically a stranger to Raya. An acquaintance at most. There is no personal, intimate reasons for them to develop trust, because there is not enough time to either develop proper characters, nor character growths. There is nothing that is a turning point for Raya to trust again, nor is there any action to prove that they deserve to be trusted.

    • Trevor Pacelli says:

      @Mi Nheo Elaborate, please.

    • Mi Nheo says:

      @Trevor Pacelli The execution is not delivering what you think the point is.

    • songbird 64 says:

      @Pinkbunnyskyedoesthings that’s literally one step away from what happens in the film I can’t

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