The US medical system is still haunted by slavery

The US medical system is still haunted by slavery

Black women’s history matters in medicine.

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94 Responses

  1. Frostbyte says:

    There are 1831 types of cheese.

  2. ThreadThatHas NoEnd says:

    and the guy who invented the wheel was an anti-semite. we should stop using cars without star of David shaped wheels.

    Edit: my point is who cares about the wrong minded thoughts of the past. It doesn’t matter that chemistry came from alchemy we have chemistry now and focusing on the alchemy only causes undue divisiveness. The current racists can be dealt with in a modern way but the past is the past and will never be up to our standards.

    • badASSbitch hereday says:

      Mishal Farhan 🔥🔥

    • R A says:

      Lewis Joseph like what?

    • Bendegúz Csóka says:

      Soulful Arts I agree, but I for one (not being from the us) never heard bout this and I’m still less racist than a lot of ppl who might have.

      Btw I know this isn’t the point of the vid; that was great.

    • lmao ok says:

      but this video isn’t saying don’t go to the doctor or something??? it’s not saying “don’t go to the hospital, everyone’s a racist”. it’s saying “there’s a lot of racism in medicine, maybe we should be informed so that we could put a stop to it”

      but i guess your ego can’t handle that huh???

  3. Robo says:

    Wow. That’s dark…No pun intended. Seriously.

  4. Pedro Vanderlei says:

    i believe in Brazil we had something similar to sterilizing women without consent, but i’m not sure if it was focused on black women

    • Sara Bee says:

      Soulful Arts Just keep in mind there were no black people in Brazil when colonization took place/started, they were called Indians. The first slave ship got to Brazil from Africa about 32 years after Brazil was taken from the Indians by the Portuguese. Afro-Brazilians are not majority here (unless you’re talking about Mixed-Race/Pardo Brazilians).

    • Amber Rodriguez says:

      Pedro Vanderlei .. We still have that in America. Its called planned parenthood and the bias is ignored by righteous white women.

    • tiki freaky says:

      Ivan D In theory mayb but how the hell would u put this into practice?? The world is over populated as it is but still being poor doesn’t determine mental ability. My mom came to this country with a “box of bananas on her head” from a 3rd world county and is well in her way to getting her master’s. Should she have been sterilized? I’m glad she wasn’t for my sake.

    • flipmaya says:

      Brazil and Australia had a different approach on race to America which people tend to forget. During colonization, natives and Africans in Brazil and Australia are “whitened” by intermarrying with Europeans. Intermixing is actually state sponsored.

      Americans on the other hand has the one drop rule. A drop of black blood mean that they are black even though they’re blue eyed and blonde haired. Intermarriage is even illegal at one point.

    • Igfa says:

      The military junta gov made a huge sterilization in indigenous people in the 60’s and 70’s, take look at the Relatório Figueiredo (Figueiredo’s Relatory)

  5. hh Death says:

    Here come the ignorant comments.

  6. Never Hi says:

    Man America had such a dark history. And it still does.

    • StereoTP95 says:

      Not really, America is just so open about their darkest times that it seems like it is.

    • slicedtoad says:

      +Jacob Schulze,
      You’re absolutely correct that Americans don’t have an accurate view of their own history. They are obsessed with their biased interpretation of it. And usually that bias fits into whatever political bias they have, allowing them to use history as a rhetorical tool. But, honestly, I’m pretty sure that isn’t unique to them.

      Germany (to my limited understanding) is an interesting case in that it has completely categorized a period of its history as ‘to never be repeated under any cost’. But I think there is likely quite a lot of bias and weird interpretation there. What Hitler did was only ‘special’ in that he was the last one to do it. There have been a lot of empires that conquered everything in sight in order to fuel more conquest. And all of them were extremely racist, cruel and nationalistic. The British Empire was probably one of the least cruel, but by today’s standards their ‘colonialism’ was still twisted AF. I think that a lot of Germans go to somewhat absurd lengths to distance themselves from that past (your speech laws come to mind) for reasons, while understandable, are still mostly emotion-driven instead of rational. Again though, I could be wrong since my understanding of the German ethos of history regarding rather limited.

    • megin na says:

      no you dumb loser, American´s history is not dark, people just whine about it, it´s nothing compared to most other countries on Earth.

    • Arlenis B says:

      TheHanspeyer8 But in terms of the severity of crimes, white people (Western Europeans) have everyone beat by a mile.

  7. hh Death says:

    Let the flame war begin

    • Nasal Spray says:

      Kyle Bennett
      This BS video is trying to say that racist doctors purposefully kill their black patients.

    • TheRecklessGamer says:

      Let the Fact checking war begin

    • jorrajorrajorra jorrajorrajorra says:

      Why do guys with anime avatars get so defensive when liberals mock right.-wingers?

    • Kyle Bennett says:

      The video starts and ends with European monument. Have you heard of the “decolonisation” movement? People, like this journalist, wants America to become less Eurocentric. In her view, a multicultural society cannot succeed if one culture (European) dominants another. She wants the removal of symbols of European culture. She wants towns, streets etc. to be renamed. She wants Europeans to be outbred (I’m not joking) – she doesn’t want whites to be a majority in the US. She wants universities to become less Eurocentric. She does not want America to be Eurocentric. Search a video on Youtube titled “Multiculturalism = Ethnocide”.

  8. Charles Uwakwe says:

    This video is very depressing.

    • Gumer Zambrano says:

      Charles Uwakwe Not really. Well I personally didn’t care at all

    • Music Lover 007 says:

      Lol haha far from triggered. Sorry but you are the triggered one, just couldn’t hold back those emotions can you? I just let this guy know why he got all emotion over this small minded video. The only logic liberals use is how to emotionally sale something to the lower emotion people they control. It’s marketing by emotions. I suggest you trying to control yourself.

    • 5%LowBattery says:

      Music Lover 007 google bought YouTube in 2006. Google is a pretty “liberal” company, as is most tech companies from “liberal” California. Either way, the point still remains…you don’t have to click on the videos, and you can stop “liberal” video from showing up in your feed. Just click the vertical dots and say you’re not interested. But clearly you Are interested in “liberal” content.

    • Music Lover 007 says:

      I click them to see their emotional sale techniques they use on people. If you’re not aware of how they work how could you look beyond just their opinions? I look at all view point, and judge people’s ideas off their presentation, logic and facts. I see this video lacks a lot of information.

    • Steny Ethan Mathews says:

      Finally, I have found an empathic comment. Thank you my friend!

  9. Jay Kay says:

    The narration was great.

  10. Bruce Wayne says:

    It’s okay to be white

    • John Smith says:

      Henrik White christian conservatives (racists) didn’t vote for obama.

    • John Smith says:

      Most christian conservatives aren’t racist?

    • Kyle Bennett says:

      The video starts and ends with a European monument. Have you heard of the “decolonisation” movement? People, like this journalist, wants America to become less Eurocentric. In her view, a multicultural society cannot succeed if one culture (European) dominants another. She wants the removal of symbols of European culture. She wants towns, streets etc. to be renamed. She wants Europeans to be outbred (I’m not joking) – she doesn’t want whites to be a majority in the US. She wants universities to become less Eurocentric. She does not want America to be Eurocentric. Search a video on Youtube titled “Multiculturalism = Ethnocide”. Any symbol created by whites, any power held by whites, any ideology created by whites is considered “white supremacy”. BLM called Justin Trudeau a white supremacist. The New York skyline is a symbol of white supremacy. The education taught at university is white supremacy. A European statue is white supremacy.

    • Diego Duarte says:

      Chris Flores damn…

  11. Emily Huxley says:

    Seriously who are the dislikes? Like, everything in this video was either a fact, or supported by primary sources and evidence.

    • Urgaidad says:

      Emily Huxley The people who dislike this video are making the point that the pass will never live up to her standards. While I agree with that I still think this video was informative. However, in the video they say that modern medicine is also having a racist effect on the black population. But the info that they have stated in this video does not have one key factor where do these black individuals live? For such a high mortality rate I don’t think this is an Insidious action I believe they just are not getting the right Care at the hospital they’ve chosen. The videos is a shade of gray to me, also the divisiveness of this video is quite apparent. This videos using facts of the past to push a political agenda and some people do not like.

    • Steven Contreras says:

      Emily Huxley racists

    • AttilaTheBuns says:

      Vox said that in the past racists thought black people didn’t feel pain then showed a medical place that thought black people overly displayed pain and said they were perpetuating a stereotype….

    • doreal says:

      Abdon Phir’athon When serviced,the medical care is not efficient.

  12. Lukas S says:

    Those medical experiments remind me of the ones the nazis committed in concentration camps. Just horrible

  13. Kenneth Shelton says:

    All the “the past is the past” comments are missing the entire point. The past is affecting the present. The past is ingrained and interwoven into the now. And not understanding that in the medical community has been deadly.

    • Gift Anegbode says:

      Kenneth Shelton what you said is so true!

    • TheHanspeter8 says:

      Well, some parts of this video are really valuable certainly useful for introducing a wider public to american medical history and it’s linkage to Slavery other parts just misrepresent and cherry pick to conform to a narrative
      e.g. presenting worse African American health outcomes as direct result of racism/discrimination ignoring alternative (and more substantiated) explanations, or quoting a passage from a book from the era and suggesting that the view espoused there was held by the majority or at least a significant minority of the population (at least Sims did not believe this, anasthesia was a very recent invention and not yet accepted in surgical practice, he also didn’t use anesthesia when doing the operation on white women). The video also misrepresents Sims experiments. Although the consent of the slave women ofc wasn’t legally relevant Sims still asked for it. The women he “experimented on all actually had fistulas and Sims attempted to achieve therapeutic results. It’s not like he just cut open some otherwise healthy women. Seriously, this video contains some disgusting revisionism.

      Deirdre Cooper Owens wrote: “Sims has been painted as either a monstrous butcher or a benign figure who, despite his slaveowning status, wanted to cure all women from their distinctly gendered suffering.” She describes these opposing views as overly reductionist, saying his history is more nuanced. He lived in a slave-holding society and expressed the racism and sexism that were considered normal during his time. He contributed significantly to the field of gynecological surgery.

      This is a valuable video but check your bias.
      We should all be critical off the culture and history that underpin our values today and define who we are.

    • Gumer Zambrano says:

      Kenneth Shelton Yeah it was in the past. We are in the present. Move on son

    • MonSTAR says:

      Kenneth Shelton it’s ok man, dumb just don’t get that ppl forced to be slaves or endure harsh racism still remember it, or have lived through it. Ppl’s minds when struck with fear only wanna see the “good” side

    • Parkour Paradise says:

      Scout Board unconsciously? How do you know this? Since extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence, please tell more, or the point you was trying to make, might not get out there as you wanted it to.

  14. philtastic1 says:

    I’m a healthcare worker and a minority myself, NO there is no racism in medicine. Stop causing a divide and hatred in this country

  15. PumpkinsnBlackcats says:

    Absolutely barbaric. If you are a woman I’m sure you are cringing and horrified just listening to this. Those poor women!

    • Gumer Zambrano says:

      PumpkinsnBlackcats it was all for the greater good of Mankind

    • DЯ. ЯΣΛPΣЯ MΛП TM says:

      PumpkinsnBlackcats

      Medical examinations and experimentation happened on both male and female Slaves. Medical experimentation on slaves and prisoners is no new occurrence its been happening as long as there have existed slaves and prisioners and still happens regularly acoss the world even today.

    • Caffeinated Poison says:

      jwhiteduck
      Well men aren’t allowed opinions. Their thoughts on this don’t matter

    • Caffeinated Poison says:

      Raketbaever
      Well hurting men doesn’t matter. The moment a female is hurt we need to drop everything.

  16. Hiukas says:

    Are you trying to just inform us about the past?
    I don’t understand the point of this video…

  17. Krills Daily says:

    Right Wingers like: “ARE YOU DISCUSSING AMERICAN HISTORY?!HOW DARE YOU NOT SAY EVERYBODY WAS NICE!!”

    • TheHanspeter8 says:

      Well, some parts of this video are really valuable, certainly useful for introducing a wider public to american medical history and it’s linkage to Slavery other parts just misrepresent and cherry pick to conform to a narrative
      e.g. presenting worse African American health outcomes as direct result of racism/discrimination ignoring alternative (and more substantiated) explanations, or quoting a passage from a book from the era and suggesting that the view espoused there was held by the majority or at least a significant minority of the population (at least Sims did not believe this, anasthesia was a very recent invention and not yet accepted in surgical practice, he also didn’t use anesthesia when doing the operation on white women). The video also misrepresents Sims experiments. Although the consent of the slave women ofc wasn’t legally relevant Sims still asked for it. The women he “experimented on all actually had fistulas and Sims attempted to achieve therapeutic results. It’s not like he just cut open some otherwise healthy women. Seriously, this video contains some disgusting revisionism.

      Deirdre Cooper Owens wrote: “Sims has been painted as either a monstrous butcher or a benign figure who, despite his slaveowning status, wanted to cure all women from their distinctly gendered suffering.” She describes these opposing views as overly reductionist, saying his history is more nuanced. He lived in a slave-holding society and expressed the racism and sexism that were considered normal during his time. He contributed significantly to the field of gynecological surgery.

      This is a valuable video but check your bias.
      We should all be critical off the culture and history that underpin our values today and define who we are.

      The video really is quite problematic.

    • Jiwanjyot Singh says:

      Krills Daily
      Cuz not everyone was nice?

    • megin na says:

      This is not discussing history, this is trying to twist it into virtue signaling, divisive agenda

    • its Rico bitch says:

      megin na but How?these are facts u idiot

  18. Ezzbra says:

    D E B O I S

  19. Jonathan Longford says:

    I feel like this video is talking about 3 different things.

    1) The inequality of healthcare in the USA. That is fair. While presented poorly, it is more than worth the discussion.

    2) A history lesson on medically inequality. Yes black women had horrible things done to them, and we shouldn’t repeat that, but we shouldn’t ignore the knowledge gained. Also, they had horrible things done to them around the civil war. Jews had horrible things done to them during world war 2. Do we see them going to the doctor less? Why or why not? Other minorities can be used as a new perspective and it is completely ignored.

    3) This video cries about how black people suffer more, but when programs for black people are introduced they are criticised for targeting a race so hence it is a racist program. Forced sterilization is horrible and shouldn’t happen and women shouldn’t be given an incentive. Give them the option and let them decide. College kids are given birthcontrol for free or darn close to cheap and you ignore that fact.

    While I see the intent of this video, it was poorly set up and easily dismissable by the opposition; eliminating most of the conversation that could be had about this topic. This video is seemingly pandering to its audience while trying to spark controversy; like they are trying to promote outrage and minimized discussion.

    Whoever wrote this, you are doing your job wrong.

  20. MikefromQueens says:

    I’m white and I just had ihop with my black buddy. It was a great experience. I was going to order pancakes, but I went French toast.

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