The Bizarre Death of Gloria Ramirez – The Toxic Lady Incident

The Bizarre Death of Gloria Ramirez – The Toxic Lady Incident

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  1. Wendigoon says:

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  2. Kombat Wombat says:

    By now Wendigoon is just using us as therapy for the horrible things he discovers.

  3. Nextralife says:

    My father was treated with DMSO for a bone marrow transplant as part of his cancer treatment, and he had that weird fruity garlic smell for like a week. It was like a mix between overripe apples and crushed garlic that you could smell any time you walked in the same room as him. Just an overpoweringly sweet, fermented, rotten garlic smell that was incredibly distinct. And that was the modern, diluted formulation.

  4. Bronwyn Bruntley says:

    I live in the Riverside area, and the Toxic Lady story is still pretty prevalent out here. Thank you for doing the actual story justice, sometimes the scariest occurrences are the ones we can naturally explain. I hope Gloria is resting easy now

  5. Adri Banana says:

    Thank you for returning Gloria Ramirez’s humanity back to her instead of pointing the finger to her and making her some sort of freak show. She was a wife, mom, daughter and sister.

    • Spunktaneous CumBustion says:

      ​​@big.gib.4Lo, there was not. There was speculation as what coulda happened cause human nature is to find the reason a tragedy happens as to avoid it

    • Spunktaneous CumBustion says:

      ​​​What happened to her and the staff was a phenomenon. Just like Elisa Lam. Maybe people, like the original commenter, are just too damn sensitive about mysterious things happening, but it doesn’t mean a truly anomalous death doesn’t need questioned, theorized on, and, hopefully, figured out cause it’s actually dehumanized otherwise

    • commiefornian says:

      @big.gib.4L I mean dumb mistakes made by someone they should be blamed

    • drewzy says:

      Desperation leads people to do things that others would consider “stupid”. I can’t imagine what Ramirez was going through mentally and emotionally.

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  6. personaissleepy says:

    My mom actually knew one of the coroner’s who did the autopsy and yeah nobody knew what caused it. I also live pretty close to the cemetery where she was buried at. Life is pretty funny sometimes and it has many mysteries but at the end of the day Gloria was an actual person. She just happened to be the center of a freak accident, and maybe someday her mystery will be put to rest with a proper answer.

  7. BelieveInMatter says:

    I’ve heard this story around 4 times now through different sources, and it never gets less bizarre. It’s one of those stories that at first seems obviously exaggerated, but there is a TON of documentation about it, down to what medication she was given

    • Leaked Videos says:

      Wendigoon commented on my recent video I’m literally cryin 😮

    • R D says:

      Several decades have passed since then, and you can really tell from the details. So many years were spent trying to untangle this mess of mysteries, and the driving force was the question: „HOW?“

  8. a house of pomegranates says:

    i think it makes sense that no one in her family knew she used dmso for her cancer. alternative medicine users are sometimes very shy about telling people in their lives that they use it because they’re afraid of judgement. imagine you tell your family you use dmso for your cancer, they’ll probably just tell you you’re an idiot, go see a doctor. this makes so much sense and i don’t think there are any loose ends at all

    • cdreid9999 says:

      ​@Crabo Hato callin it “degreasing stuff” is very misleading. It is used in medicine and was groundbreaking when discovered. It’s danger comes from its usefulness in transporting chemicals across the skin barrier. A lot of negative and nefarious possibilities therr

    • Crabo Hato says:

      ​@William Jenkins well, look at how people react to it? “Wow, that woman must have been pretty dumb to use that degreasing stuff huh”. They don’t wanna see the person who literally died in a bizarre way as someone stupid

    • MrLuckless says:

      The reason why people might call you foolish or just plain dumb for using “alternative medicine” is that at best it does nothing and the placebo effect kicks in. At worst it makes whatever ails you worse because some weirdo from Arizona told you rubbing a crystal on your skin rash would make it clear right up and now the rash has spread.

      It’s a valid reason not to mention your doing something potentially dangerous when you don’t fully understand just what your doing.

    • Loxu says:

      @William Jenkins people usually believe the first theory that sounds plausible to them, she died in the most weird circumstances possible and the investigation ended in them calling it “mass hysteria”, so for the months/years it took for people to find out it was DMSO, the family was already convinced this was a coverup + the fact that this just can’t be recreated in a lab due to many human rights issues

    • William Jenkins says:

      It makes me wonder why the family is so vehemently against this theory.

  9. transantag says:

    The thing with family accounts that’s always hard for me is, as much as I want to listen to them, families oftentimes want to protect the memory of their loved ones and are quick to shoot down anything that they feel ‘tarnishes’ their memory.

    In this case, I think it’s very likely Gloria didn’t even tell them she was using anything. Perhaps worried they’d judge her, or not wanting to get their hopes up about something she knew was uncertain. Or they did know, but there’s comfort it being able to assign blame, and if she did use DMSO- then it’s an unfortunate series of events that no one could’ve anticipated.

    • transantag says:

      @williamjenkins4913  there’s a lot of cases where someone very clearly died due to drug use or alcohol, but the family refused to accept it because their loved one “never would’ve done that” or the many instances of someone committing suicide, but the family refusing to accept it.
      It’s always horrifically sad, because it’s such a human thing to want to see only the best of those you love. At the same time, though, i do think accepting the truth is honoring them in its own way.

    • William Jenkins says:

      Makes me think of all the times someone’s family will be on the news calling them “such a nice boy who would never hurt anybody” and it turns out this “nice boy” has a rap sheet as long as they are tall.

  10. RoseKoneko says:

    I feel bad for the woman that held the vial too. Her health tanked and she had no answers for what happened, while the hospital just shrugged and didn’t seem to care about the survivors.

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