Film Theory: They Missed the Point (Try Guys Drama)
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Theorists, we need to talk about @The Try Guys situation and by that I mean the mainstream media coverage of it. See, I think the Try Guys handled the situation with professionalism. You know who didn’t? The media making fun of them for being YouTubers. That SNL skit? Not a good look. So, let’s talk about all of it.
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I know MatPat has tackled controversial topics before, but I ever would’ve expected MatPat to do a film theory on this.
Agreed, also how are you on like every video ever
*sees the replies*
Me: IT’S TIME TO STOP
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Matt missed the best part, how one of the people that wrote the SNL skit is a friend of Ned’s from Yale and a lot of people believe that Ned was the one that thought up the idea to get his friend to trash the other guys to take the heat off of Ned but he forgot that he name dropped said friend on an episode of The Try Pod as Will Stephen.
@That One Guy From Teen Titans Who is Really Robin imagine being this ignorant
I guess I’m in the minority here. It’s just crazy to me that these days your personal life and career are so intertwined, and that the internet has become it’s own court system. “Fire him and if you don’t we stop watching” lol. Oh well. I swear people are acting like he molested someone or assaulted someone. Dude had an affair. More than half of all people in relationships have affairs, and 99% of them don’t get fired. Idk why we as casual observers on the internet hold youtubers to a different standard
@Amanda🦋 unless the woman comes out and states that she was manipulated or pressured into the relationship because of fear of being fired, then I don’t see how it matters. Plenty of people who are coworkers get together, and a lot of them aren’t always at the same level in their job. I guess it’s never okay to date someone if you are higher up than them at a company? They’re grown adults, I think they can make their own decisions. You act like she was manipulated because of a power dynamic thing, as if this woman was too dumb to think for herself. I think it’s kind of insulting to assume any time someone dates someone they work with who has a higher position, it’s because they were manipulated, consciously or unconsciously, into doing it. I’m sure this woman was intelligent enough to recognize the power dynamic and have agency over herself and her decisions
@Z Z having a relationship with someone you work with isn’t always a bad thing, many people meet their significant other at work. Unless they had specific rules that inter-office relationships weren’t allowed then I don’t see what the issue is. And I’ve never heard of ang employer being able tk fire someone because they had an affair. Now of course i think what he did was awful, but I really just hate how the internet has become this place where we as observers have become the ones to answer to. We’re like the judge and jury and executioner in these types of situations, where someone’s entire career can go away within a day because people online demand someone gets fired or makes an apology or is issued some sort of punishment. I don’t even think this should have been public knowledge.
@That One Guy From Teen Titans Who is Really Robin he was her BOSS
Dadpat came out in full force in this video – truly felt like he was standing in front of the whole of Youtube as he scolded the older siblings for hurting the younger sibling.
Link to the clip : ned got exposed
I love how furious Matt is about how the whole thing has been covered. It bothered me really badly too, I just couldn’t frame it as eloquently as he has
I wouldn’t have even said the try guys were mad as much as they are disappointed and shocked. Ned has been absolutely doting on his wife for years, totally obsessed with her. I’m 21 and I grew up watching their videos and thinking “I need a man that loves me that much” so hearing that he’s been having a long-term affair, not even just made a one-time mistake, is such a massive disappointment. If it had been made public and the try guys didn’t do anything about it and just continued making videos with him, they would lose such a huge portion of their viewers from people that are just so disgusted by Ned and what he did to his poor wife. He could’ve tainted the reputation of not only himself, but the try guys as a whole if they hadn’t decided to get rid of him. They did what they had to to show that they don’t condone that kind of behavior and keep the respect of their viewers.
I’m sure it was a very difficult thing for them to do, too. This is a man they’ve been working with for a very long time. They know each other very intimately and I’m sure it hurt them quite a bit to learn that their friend wasn’t who they thought he was. It was a very big deal to a lot of people and they did their best to address and fix the issue, and that’s a pretty admirable thing to do.
You basically just confirmed the accusations of the New York Times article that this video was trying to argue against… that if they didn’t fire him for what he did, the internet would get pissed and viewers would drop. So they fired him in response to the backlash they could receive if they didn’t. Which is true. Online mob justice is a huge thing now and any time someone does something bad in their personal life, the internet basically demands they get fired lol. Obviously I think what he did was awful, especially since I’ve been married for 8 years, but what’s with this idea that we as viewers and observers are owed an explanation or an apology or some sort of punishment?
I just realized we’ve known them since 2012 we literally grew up with them. I was 11 then
It amazes me how this scandal can be so badly portrayed. The Try Guys actions were basically the perfect example of how to handle this type of situation. As soon as they were aware of the problem the worked continuously behind the scenes to solve it the correct and legal way and when it finally started to gain attention in the public domain made a video explaining the situation and explaining what they did and why before the story was twisted too much by speculation.
@Sleepy Songs that won’t work. If she files that claim she has to prove that in court which she likely can’t. Try guys doesn’t have to prove anything other than the fact they knew nothing. If SHE comes out and tries to sue saying it was forced she now has to provide any and all relevant information because if she can’t and is lying they could counter sue her for fraudulent claims.
@SuperPurplePancakes maybe so, but she should still be fired on the terms that she knowingly violated the company policy. If she ever came out to say she was forced she is at that point legally obligated to prove that her claim is legit. She doesn’t get to just say it and it be a fact. She needs to provide any and all relevant information to back up that claim which she won’t because she was consenting to the relationship.
@moviemaker2011z Ned did not get fired for cheating, he got fired for being an owner that had a long-term sexual relationship with an employee under him, which is a legal liability and opens up the company to potentially being sued by her if she ever claimed she was forced or coerced by him using his power as her boss. Her and Ned are equal as cheaters but not equal when it comes to the legality of their actions.
@Not that serious ikr I’m enjoying these legal discussions as I’m pursuing law for college lmao. Big brain juice
Wow didn’t know everyone was a lawyer in these comments lol.
This is the level of rage I needed on this topic. Its like MatPat channeled Becky and Eugene’s energy.
I agree. I think it will be cathartic for them to watch this. Seeing their frustration without legal risk from saying too much and cussing
I always liked the Try Guys and didn’t mind when they occasionally popped up in my feed. I didn’t even know about this drama until this video, but I’m glad to see they took the proper steps to ensure an honest workplace and company!
If you want to learn more about the issue and the nuances about it, iNabber made some videos about the drama and the aftermath whilst giving a nuanced opinion.
Dishonesty is something a LOT miss in this. Ned didn’t just lie to his wife, he lied to everyone including viewers. That effects viewership. Everyone puts on a mask as a creator but this is beyond that and into the “I can’t believe anything you say” territory that makes you not want to watch.
This is so perfectly worded, I’m doing an essay for my college class about how the media totally missed on the try guys controversy. I didn’t even think of the YouTubers POV and how the media portrays them as “pranksters” it’s so interesting
@Alphonse Maina there is discrimination of all sorts across all kinds of people and groups, no one is arguing that, I was just pointing out one particular discrimination against content creators that was influenced by MSM as it was relevant to OP.
Yes, “pranksters” is up there with “thug”; words MSM uses to try to diminish and undermine certain groups of people to make them seem bad, undesirable, and as someone else said, “the enemy.”
Seems like you might have a new reference for your paper. It especially helps with “potential lawsuits” and “bankruptcy” brought in, a language past generations know of better.
@Jeddy Bear It’s not just with content creators it’s even with things like the Libyan invasion, court cases and many American military conflicts.
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